{"id":8747,"date":"2019-07-10T09:53:47","date_gmt":"2019-07-10T14:53:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=8747"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:40:31","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:40:31","slug":"whats-whiteness-got-to-do-with-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2019\/07\/10\/whats-whiteness-got-to-do-with-it\/","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s whiteness got to do with it?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u201cYou don\u2019t dismantle white supremacy by \u2018learning about other cultures.\u2019 You dismantle white supremacy by deconstructing whiteness.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/benitagracejoy\/?hl=es\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Benita Grace Joy<\/strong><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8751\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8751\" style=\"width: 512px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8751 \" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/201907-messy-jesus-business-meme.jpg?w=648\" alt=\"benitagracejoy-meme\" width=\"512\" height=\"520\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8751\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This meme, shares Annemarie, &#8220;&#8230; deeply resonates with my own experience.&#8221;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I saw this quote the other day. As any good meme does, it deeply resonates with my own experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">As a white woman who chose to move to South America, originally serving as a Franciscan lay missioner, the temptation for years has been to reconcile my whiteness by learning about other cultures different from my own.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">But the trouble is that although it may be less complicated to dabble in other cultures instead of deconstructing my own, it would do little in the way of addressing my own internalized racial superiority and the racist systems I participate in daily.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I have seen this dynamic in the experiences of short-term mission trips (domestic and abroad) so common in white Catholic culture.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">When observing another culture, rarely do we slow down enough to reflect on our judgments and assumptions and what they have to do with race.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">It adds a whole other layer of reflection when we start to consider how our judgments and assumptions are influenced by our own internalized racial superiority as white people.<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8755\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8755\" style=\"width: 648px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8755 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/20190711-siembra-resistencia-annemarie-barrett.jpg?w=648\" alt=\"\" width=\"648\" height=\"518\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8755\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Siembra Resistencia,&#8221; original watercolor by Annemarie Barrett, <a href=\"https:\/\/aebart.weebly.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>AEB Art<\/strong><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">While serving as a <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/franciscanmissionservice.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Franciscan lay missioner<\/a><\/strong>, I visited one of the Catholic communities in the United States that was financially supporting me. After listening to my brief explanation of our work and an expression of gratitude for their financial support, one woman<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2014 <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Catholic, white<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2014 <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">approached me and said, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u201cI am just so glad that you are down there teaching those people how to share.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I was stunned. Absolutely stunned. The kind of shock that comes with hearing an assumption made about your own experience that is so inaccurate it causes both rage and grief at the same time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I let this woman know that, in fact, collectivity and sharing are much more integral elements of Andean culture in South America than they are in individualistic white culture in the United States. I let her know that I was learning how to share from the Quechua women I was accompanying in a way that I had never learned in my white Catholic upbringing.<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"mceTemp\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">And yet I have never forgotten that exchange, perhaps because it demonstrates how our internalized racial superiority as white people works. We as white people often make racist assumptions about people different from us, and it is so common to make these assumptions in our white Catholic communities that we don\u2019t even realize that we do it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8763\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8763\" style=\"width: 648px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8763 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280.jpg?w=648\" alt=\"sketching watercolor\" width=\"648\" height=\"648\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280.jpg 2074w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190701_180321_280-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 648px) 100vw, 648px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8763\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Siembra Resistencia,&#8221; original watercolor by Annemarie Barrett, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/aebart.weebly.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AEB Art<\/a><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">We may travel to another culture and bring back souvenirs and anecdotes about the intercultural experiences that we had, but do we also bring back a reflection of our own whiteness? Are we simply trying on other cultures during these service experiences or are we also deconstructing how the paternalism in our service is rooted in racism?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">When I decided to continue to live in South America after finishing my formal service as a Franciscan lay missioner, one person\u2019s reaction to my decision was, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u201cI understood why you were there when you were helping people, but I don\u2019t understand why you would stay.\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<div class=\"mceTemp\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I have since wondered to myself, is it really that hard for white people to imagine that there is more to culture than our racist standards in the so-called \u201cdeveloped world\u201d? How can we challenge the racist belief that living in another non-white culture is inherently a sacrifice?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">How might we learn to stop centering our experience as white people as the only way to effectively live in this world? In our white Catholic communities, how might we confront the sinfulness in our own habits and lifestyles instead of scapegoating other communities and cultures?<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8761\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8761\" style=\"width: 648px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8761 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722.jpg?w=648\" alt=\"sketching\" width=\"648\" height=\"648\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722.jpg 2554w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190605_102011_722-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 648px) 100vw, 648px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8761\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Siembra Resistencia,&#8221; original watercolor by Annemarie Barrett, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/aebart.weebly.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AEB Art<\/a><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">As white people in the so-called \u201cdeveloped world,\u201d we are the worldwide leaders in materialism, consumption, production of food waste and pollution.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"mceTemp\"><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">So when our white Catholic communities travel to other cultures and observe pollution and environmental decay, how might we flip the script? Instead of making racist assumptions about the failures of the communities receiving us, how might we reflect on the dire effects of the globalization of our materialistic lifestyles?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">When our white Catholic communities visit other cultures and observe material poverty and violence, how might we flip the script? Instead of raising money for a charitable cause invested in paternalistic solutions, how might we reflect on the history of colonialism and <a href=\"https:\/\/schoolingtheworld.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>ongoing cultural genocide<\/strong><\/a> that has attempted to destroy so many communities of color around the world while ensuring the privilege and power we experience as white people today? How might we redirect our financial resources to organizations invested in social justice work founded and led by professionals born and raised in the communities they serve?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size:16px;font-weight:400;\">And when our white Catholic communities visit other cultures and only see suffering and despair, how might we flip the script? Instead of assuming incompetence and neediness, how might we open ourselves to hear the testimonies of resilience? How might we genuinely learn from different cultural values and practices instead of trivializing them? How might we allow the wisdom in cultures different from our own to challenge our own preconceived notions and way of doing things?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8762\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8762\" style=\"width: 648px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8762 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980.jpg?w=648\" alt=\"sketching\" width=\"648\" height=\"648\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980.jpg 2522w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980-1536x1536.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/img_20190606_141232_980-2048x2048.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 648px) 100vw, 648px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8762\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8220;Siembra Resistencia,&#8221; original watercolor by Annemarie Barrett, <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/aebart.weebly.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AEB Art<\/a><\/strong><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Interacting with people of color and learning about cultures different from our own is not enough to absolve us of racism. Donating money to charities working in communities of color is not enough to absolve us of racism.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">In our white Catholic communities, our anti-racism work needs to also include reckoning with our whiteness, deconstructing our power and privilege and paternalism and our colonial history. In order to deconstruct white supremacy, we need to reflect on the assumptions and judgments we hold that are rooted in our own internalized racial superiority. How are you addressing these issues in your Catholic communities?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>ABOUT THE <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/rabble-rousers\/?preview_id=922&amp;preview_nonce=da69b29eac&amp;_thumbnail_id=-1&amp;preview=true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">RABBLE ROUSER<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8663 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/annemarie-barrett-messy-jesus-business-contributor.jpg?w=300\" alt=\"\" width=\"178\" height=\"180\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/author\/aebartshop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Annemarie Barrett<\/strong><\/a> grew up in the Midwest and now lives in Bolivia, South America. Her spiritual journey has been greatly influenced by the <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicworker.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Catholic Worker Movement<\/a><\/strong> and the Franciscan charism of humble availability and deep solidarity. She has also been influenced and transformed by the unique experience of spending most of her life in Western, capitalist culture and now living for years in Andean culture that is much more communal and rooted in the wisdom of indigenous communities. Today, she lives and farms with her partner and also creates and sells her original art under the name <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/aebart.weebly.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">AEB Art<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"\u201cYou don\u2019t dismantle white supremacy by \u2018learning about other cultures.\u2019 You dismantle white supremacy by deconstructing whiteness. \u2013 Benita Grace Joy I saw this quote the other day. As any good meme does, it deeply resonates with my own experience. 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