{"id":8309,"date":"2018-12-05T12:11:45","date_gmt":"2018-12-05T18:11:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=8309"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:41:44","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:41:44","slug":"do-you-know-who-youre-talking-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2018\/12\/05\/do-you-know-who-youre-talking-to\/","title":{"rendered":"Do you know who you&#8217;re talking to?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">As I walked down the hall and into our parish\u2019s Spanish language youth group meeting after a very trying and somewhat disappointing middle school lesson on the Ten Commandments, I was fully immersed in beleaguered-teacher mode. I entered and quickly began an Advent lesson on Mary. We began reviewing the stories of the Annunciation, the Visitation, and the Nativity, and I was asking questions and giving answers in a pretty rote fashion: What\u2019s the angel\u2019s name? Who does he visit first? Who is Elizabeth the mother of? Yes, that\u2019s right &#8230; no, that\u2019s wrong &#8230; and so forth. But before long a more engaging question came up from one of the students:<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">why doesn\u2019t Mary get scolded for questioning the angel?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I paused. It\u2019s a decent question. Gabriel shows up to Zechariah and announces a miraculous birth. When Zechariah asks how this shall come to pass given the age of himself and his wife, the angel takes this as a doubt-filled affront and strikes him mute. Fast forward a little bit, when Gabriel shows up to Mary and announces a miraculous birth. Mary asks how this shall come to pass given the circumstances of her virginity. Gabriel, instead of becoming angry, gives a fuller account and praises Mary even further. What gives?<\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8313\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8313\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-8313 size-medium\" title=\"Henry Ossawa Tanner's &quot;The Annunciation&quot; (image courtesy commons.wikimedia.org)\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/franciscan-sisters-609px-henry_ossawa_tanner_-_the_annunciation.jpg?w=300\" alt=\"light-shining-woman-on-bed\" width=\"300\" height=\"251\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/franciscan-sisters-609px-henry_ossawa_tanner_-_the_annunciation.jpg 401w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/franciscan-sisters-609px-henry_ossawa_tanner_-_the_annunciation-150x126.jpg 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/12\/franciscan-sisters-609px-henry_ossawa_tanner_-_the_annunciation-300x251.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8313\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Henry Ossawa Tanner&#8217;s &#8220;The Annunciation&#8221; (image courtesy <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Henry_Ossawa_Tanner_-_The_Annunciation.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">commons.wikimedia.org<\/a>)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The students give various answers. They seem to me insufficient, and I say so; I\u2019m the teacher after all. No, that\u2019s not right. No, I don\u2019t think so. I give some explanation which seems to me semi-convincing, and the kids nod. I prepare to move on. But another hand goes up, &#8220;No Mr. Steven, I don\u2019t think that\u2019s right. I think there\u2019s a better explanation.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u201cOh,\u201d I say, skeptical. \u201cAnd what is that?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">The student continues. \u201cI mean, I just think the angel knows who he is talking to &#8230; the mother of the King. In some way his own mother. You cannot talk to your mother that way. Maybe your brothers and sisters, maybe your friends, but not your mother. I would never, and surely the angel is better at these things than I am.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I had never thought of that before. The student\u2019s response knocked me out of my haze and into a moment of speechless consideration. I\u2019ll admit, I don\u2019t know the real answer to this question (who can pretend to know the minds of the angels? The mind of God?), but I loved his answer and his perception humbled me. I was no longer in teacher mode<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2014 <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I was awake now, and pondering this possibility right alongside the rest of the class.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I just think the angel knows who he is talking to.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">My student comes from a home where there is a much greater culture of traditional respect than in the home I grew up in. Most of the time, I talked to my parents any which way<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2014 <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">if anything, familiarity was a sign of closeness and affection, not respect. And while both have their place, I realized that the discussion with this student meant I had missed something<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2014 <\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">I couldn\u2019t see what he could.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">It is a lesson I have learned before and which I clearly need to learn again; perhaps one we must learn over and over countless times: we can only see the fullness of truth in a community of faith. Our viewpoints are limited and all those we encounter know something we don\u2019t. We can learn something new from anyone at any time if we are willing to set down the answer book and listen. Just as an adolescent Jewish girl from Nazareth can outrank an angel in holiness, so too can students surpass their teacher\u2019s insight; so too can we all be outmatched in wisdom by those we underestimate. Real wisdom is not ignoring those lessons when they come.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">But the student\u2019s answer is also challenging on a different level. As I left class that day I found myself thinking, \u201cDo I know who I am talking to?\u201d My students are kids; kids I am entrusted with teaching and correcting. But do I also recognize them as brothers and sisters and fellow disciples? People with unique experiences of God that frequently surpass my own in holiness? People who had a relationship with God before I stepped in the classroom and who will have one long after they have moved on from our time together?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Do I know who I am talking to in the people I meet every day? Do I know who I am talking to in the person on the street? Do I know who I am talking to when I argue with my enemy? C.S. Lewis once said that there are no ordinary people: <\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">There are no ordinary people. You have never talked to a mere mortal. Nations, cultures, arts, civilization \u2014 these are mortal, and their life is to ours as the life of a gnat. But it is immortals whom we joke with, work with, marry, snub, and exploit \u2014 immortal horrors or everlasting splendors. This does not mean that we are to be perpetually solemn. We must play. But our merriment must be of that kind (and it is, in fact, the merriest kind) which exists between people who have, from the outset, taken each other seriously \u2014 no flippancy, no superiority, no presumption. And our charity must be real and costly love, with deep feeling for the sins in spite of which we love the sinner \u2014 no mere tolerance or indulgence which parodies love as flippancy parodies merriment. Next to the Blessed Sacrament itself, your neighbor is the holiest object presented to your senses.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">All too often I don\u2019t know this. For me, familiarity might not breed contempt but it can sure breed blindness and ingratitude. The people I see every day<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2014 <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">my family, my students, my co-workers and acquaintances<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"> \u2014 \u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">become normal, and I can no longer see them each for the unique word of God that is spoken in them. The unique aspect of the Divine Person that they are in the world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">My student gave me a great gift on the first day of Advent and so it has become my Advent prayer: <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight:400;\"><em>Renew my vision. Let me see people as they really are; let me see them as you see them. Let me take no one for granted, and let me recognize your face in all I meet. <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-weight:400;\">Lord, let me see who I am talking to. Amen.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>About the <a href=\"https:\/\/wordpress.com\/page\/messyjesusbusiness.com\/922\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rabble Rouser<\/a>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/author\/scottam\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Steven Cottam<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5157\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/20150422_185925-e1506971444829.jpg?w=306\" alt=\"Steven-Cottam-baby\" width=\"153\" height=\"275\" \/><em>Steven Cottam serves as youth minister at Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church. He lives in Mechanicsville, Virginia, with his lovely wife, precocious daughter and adorable infant son. 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