{"id":24569,"date":"2025-10-23T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-10-23T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=24569"},"modified":"2026-02-09T08:28:43","modified_gmt":"2026-02-09T14:28:43","slug":"michele-dunne-ofs-kinship-and-conversion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2025\/10\/23\/michele-dunne-ofs-kinship-and-conversion\/","title":{"rendered":"Michele Dunne, OFS: kinship and conversion"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=149407128&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2FMJB_Episode_96_Michele_Dunne.mp3#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_96_Michele_Dunne.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?powerpress_pinw=24569-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_96_Michele_Dunne.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"MJB_Episode_96_Michele_Dunne.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><strong>Episode 96 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh<\/strong>.<\/strong> In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with Michele Duane, OFS, executive director of the Franciscan Action Network (FAN). They explore secular Franciscanism, activism, the interests of government vs. the interests of gospel, Franciscan discernment, kinship, interior conversion, and much more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Podcast:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/MJB_Episode_96_Michele_Dunne.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Play in new window<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/http:\/\/http:\/\/MJB_Episode_96_Michele_Dunne.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Subscribe:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/messyjesusbusiness.com\/feed\/podcast\/\">Email<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\">RSS<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/catholic-podcast\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\">More<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>A <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/17ewhrA2nPCzqZYWnHeBLjARnw1az7J5_\/edit?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=112061134932254474497&amp;rtpof=true&amp;sd=true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">transcript<\/a> of the sho<\/strong><\/em><strong><em>w is available.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;If I had to use one word to say, you know, what is it at the root of the Franciscan tradition that that we can bring that&#8217;s needed in the world today? The word I would use is <em>kinship<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<cite>-Michele Dunne<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1328\" height=\"1598\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/michele-dunne-portrait.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-24571\" style=\"width:556px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/michele-dunne-portrait.png 1328w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/michele-dunne-portrait-249x300.png 249w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/michele-dunne-portrait-851x1024.png 851w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/michele-dunne-portrait-125x150.png 125w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/michele-dunne-portrait-768x924.png 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/michele-dunne-portrait-1276x1536.png 1276w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1328px) 100vw, 1328px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Michele Dunne<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p>You can find out more about Franciscan Action Network at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.franciscanaction.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">www.franciscanaction.org<\/a> and on Instagram @franciscannet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ABOUT THE GUEST<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Michele Dunne is a Secular Franciscan and executive director of the Franciscan Action Network (FAN). Before joining FAN, she worked for the U.S. Department of State and at think tanks including the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. She and her husband have two young adult children and live in Washington DC.<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MESSY JESUS BUSINESS<\/strong>&nbsp;is hosted by Sister Julia Walsh.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Produced and edited by Colin Wambsgans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Email us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com\">messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>BE SOCIAL:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\"><br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Facebook:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitter: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/messyjesusbiz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@messyjesusbiz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instagram:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S<strong>UPPORT US:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Episode 96 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh. 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