{"id":23630,"date":"2025-03-27T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-03-27T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=23630"},"modified":"2026-02-09T08:27:00","modified_gmt":"2026-02-09T14:27:00","slug":"elena-segura-immigration-reform-and-the-radicalness-of-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2025\/03\/27\/elena-segura-immigration-reform-and-the-radicalness-of-christianity\/","title":{"rendered":"Elena Segura: Immigration Reform and the Radicalness of Christianity"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=143826662&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2FMJB_Episode_90_Elena_Segura.mp3#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_90_Elena_Segura.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?powerpress_pinw=23630-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_90_Elena_Segura.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"MJB_Episode_90_Elena_Segura.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><strong>Episode 90 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh<\/strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(We had some issues with Elena&#8217;s microphone during recording, our apologies! -Colin)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh, FSPA talks with Elena Segura about Evangelicalism, conversion, social justice, the radicalness of Mass, immigration reform, silence, and more.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Podcast:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_90_Elena_Segura.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Play in new window<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/MJB_Episode_90_Elena_Segura.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Subscribe:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/messyjesusbusiness.com\/feed\/podcast\/\">Email<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\">RSS<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/catholic-podcast\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\">More<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>A <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/document\/d\/1YKF_xUGLah7uKvSKqvMaBljmspY6OH7f\/edit?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=112061134932254474497&amp;rtpof=true&amp;sd=true\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">transcript<\/a> of the sho<\/strong><\/em><strong><em>w is available.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;Evangelization is just being who you are.&#8221;<\/p>\n<cite>-Elena Segura<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Learn more about Elena Segura&#8217;s work <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalpastoralmigratoria.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>, and join her in saying a rosary every Wednesday during Lent for immigration reform.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1564\" height=\"1564\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/elena-segura-portrait.png\" alt=\"Elena Segura\" class=\"wp-image-23634\" style=\"width:634px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/elena-segura-portrait.png 1564w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/elena-segura-portrait-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/elena-segura-portrait-1024x1024.png 1024w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/elena-segura-portrait-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/elena-segura-portrait-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/elena-segura-portrait-1536x1536.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1564px) 100vw, 1564px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Elena Segura<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>ABOUT THE GUEST<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Elena Segura leads a national initiative of the Archdiocese of Chicago to develop and implement Pastoral Migratoria, which she founded in 2008 as an immigrant-led ministry for service, justice, and accompaniment in parish communities. Pastoral Migratoria is based in the methodology of Aparecida, whose main architect was (now) Pope Francis. Chicago area participants include 200 Hispanic lay leaders across 40 Hispanic parishes. The Dioceses of Stockton (CA) and Kansas City\u2013Saint Joseph (MO) launched their pilot programs last year. Ten dioceses interested in starting this ministry took part in the inaugural Instituto Pastoral Migratoria in Chicago in July 2018. The goal is to create a national network. Since the 2005 inception of the Catholic Campaign for Immigration Reform, Elena directed the archdiocese\u2019s local Immigration Ministry, facilitating formation of pioneering networks of 200 priests, 54 religious orders, and immigration liaisons in 124 native-born congregations. Elena began her career organizing grassroots responses to problems facing her community in rural Peru.<br><br><br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MESSY JESUS BUSINESS<\/strong>&nbsp;is hosted by Sister Julia Walsh.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Produced and edited by Colin Wambsgans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Email us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com\">messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>BE SOCIAL:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\"><br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Facebook:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitter: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/messyjesusbiz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@messyjesusbiz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instagram:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S<strong>UPPORT US:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Episode 90 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh. 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