{"id":22742,"date":"2024-10-24T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-10-24T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=22742"},"modified":"2026-02-09T08:28:04","modified_gmt":"2026-02-09T14:28:04","slug":"mark-longhurst-mysticism-and-aliveness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2024\/10\/24\/mark-longhurst-mysticism-and-aliveness\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark Longhurst: Mysticism and Aliveness"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?podcast_id=137770404&amp;media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2FMJB_Episode_82_Mark_Longhurst.mp3#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_82_Mark_Longhurst.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?powerpress_pinw=22742-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_82_Mark_Longhurst.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"MJB_Episode_82_Mark_Longhurst.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><strong>Episode 82 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh<\/strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Podcast:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/MJB_Episode_81_Elizabeth_Garlow.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Play in new window<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/MJB_Episode_81_Elizabeth_Garlow.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Subscribe:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/messyjesusbusiness.com\/feed\/podcast\/\">Email<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\">RSS<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/catholic-podcast\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\">More<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&#8220;I think when we&#8217;re playing we&#8217;re participating in the playfulness of God.&#8221;<\/p>\n<cite>-Mark Longhurst<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IN THIS EPISODE<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the latest episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh FSPA chats with Mark Longhurst, author of the newly released book, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.monkfishpublishing.com\/products-page-2\/christianity\/the-holy-ordinary\/\">The Holy Ordinary: A Way to God <\/a><\/em>, a member of a new monastic community, and &#8220;ordinary mystic.&#8221; They discuss Mark&#8217;s journey from a young Evangelical to UCC pastor to social justice ministry, and eventually to mysticism. &#8220;I would say that my journey is just one of constant failure and suffering,&#8221; Mark says, &#8220;and then finding greater depth and God&#8217;s presence in the midst of it.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mark and Sister Julia discuss the old beliefs they have had to &#8220;unlearn,&#8221; including atonement theology, and the peace and playfulness found in growth. They also delve into integrating contemplation and mysticism into an &#8220;ordinary&#8221; life, and different styles of parenting. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Name Drops:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jesus<br>Richard Rohr<br>Dostoevsky<br>Hildegard of Bingen<br>James Baldwin<br>Mirabai Starr<br>DC Talk<br>Michael W. Smith<br>Jars of Clay<br>Pearl Jam<br>Celtics<br>Community of the Incarnation<br><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Topics Discussed:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Evangelicalism<br>mysticism<br>mainline Christianity<br>contemplation<br>deconstruction and reconstruction<br>atonement theology<br>parenting<br>playfulness<br>discipleship<br>messiness of Gospel living<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Books Mentioned:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>the Bible<br><em><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/p\/books\/the-brothers-karamazov-bicentennial-edition-a-novel-in-four-parts-with-epilogue-fyodor-dostoevsky\/16734685?ean=9781250788450\">The Brothers Karamazov<\/a><br><\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/p\/books\/the-holy-ordinary-a-way-to-god\/21068937?ean=9781958972519\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>The Holy Ordinary<br><\/em><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/bookshop.org\/p\/books\/ordinary-mysticism-your-life-as-holy-ground-mirabai-starr\/20988125?ean=9780063317192\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Ordinary Mysticism<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"970\" height=\"1456\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mark-Longhurst-portrait.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-22749\" style=\"width:372px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mark-Longhurst-portrait.png 970w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mark-Longhurst-portrait-200x300.png 200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mark-Longhurst-portrait-682x1024.png 682w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mark-Longhurst-portrait-100x150.png 100w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/10\/Mark-Longhurst-portrait-768x1153.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 970px) 100vw, 970px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Mark Longhurst<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>ABOUT THE GUEST<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mark Longhurst is a writer and \u201cordinary mystic.\u201d He is a member of the new monastic \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.spiritualimagination.org\/the-community\/\">Community of the Incarnation<\/a>\u201d and works as the Publications Manager at the Center for Action and Contemplation. A former pastor, he served United Church of Christ churches for ten years and worked as a faith-based social justice activist in the Boston area for ten more. A graduate of Harvard Divinity School, and a longtime yoga-practitioner, he runs two Substack newsletters at <a href=\"https:\/\/marklonghurst.substack.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">marklonghurst.substack.com<\/a>. Mark lives in western Massachusetts with his family.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MESSY JESUS BUSINESS<\/strong>&nbsp;is hosted by Sister Julia Walsh.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Produced and edited by Colin Wambsgans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Email us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com\">messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>BE SOCIAL:<\/strong><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\"><br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Facebook:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitter: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/messyjesusbiz\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">@messyjesusbiz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instagram:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S<strong>UPPORT US:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Episode 82 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh. 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