{"id":18762,"date":"2022-10-27T12:00:56","date_gmt":"2022-10-27T17:00:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=18762"},"modified":"2026-02-09T08:18:56","modified_gmt":"2026-02-09T14:18:56","slug":"sister-eileen-mckenzie-the-complexity-of-the-call-to-the-way-of-christ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2022\/10\/27\/sister-eileen-mckenzie-the-complexity-of-the-call-to-the-way-of-christ\/","title":{"rendered":"Sister Eileen McKenzie: The Complexity of the Call to the Way of Christ"},"content":{"rendered":"<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2FEileen_McKenzie_FSPA_MJB_podcast.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Fcustomwordpresssites.com%2Fmjb%2F2022%2F10%2F27%2Fsister-eileen-mckenzie-the-complexity-of-the-call-to-the-way-of-christ%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/Eileen_McKenzie_FSPA_MJB_podcast.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?powerpress_pinw=18762-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/Eileen_McKenzie_FSPA_MJB_podcast.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"Eileen_McKenzie_FSPA_MJB_podcast.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/category\/podcast\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Episode 52 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Podcast:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/b\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/Eileen_McKenzie_FSPA_MJB_podcast.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Play in new window<\/a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/b\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/Eileen_McKenzie_FSPA_MJB_podcast.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Subscribe:\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.stitcher.com\/podcast\/messy-jesus-business\">Stitcher<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/messyjesusbusiness.com\/feed\/podcast\/\">Email<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\">RSS<\/a>\u00a0|\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/catholic-podcast\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\">More<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote\"><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Christ is The Way and whatever is in the way is The Way.&#8221; <\/strong><br>&#8211; Sister Eileen McKenzie<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"855\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-855x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18773\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-855x1024.jpg 855w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-250x300.jpg 250w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-125x150.jpg 125w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-768x920.jpg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-1283x1536.jpg 1283w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-1710x2048.jpg 1710w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-1200x1437.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-380x455.jpg 380w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-800x958.jpg 800w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/mckenzie-eileen-2022-1160x1389.jpg 1160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 855px) 100vw, 855px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18767\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-800x600.jpg 800w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-380x285.jpg 380w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5207-1160x870.jpg 1160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">crosses on the camino de santiago. April 2017. photo by julia walsh FSPA<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IN THIS EPISODE:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh talks with another Franciscan Sister of Perpetual Adoration, Sister Eileen McKenzie. Their conversation explores the complexities of the call to Christian life and the challenges of working for justice. Sister Eileen also shares her insights about what Catholic religious life is becoming, the meaning of religious vows and the struggle to be Christ-like as we become instruments of Truth and healing. Sister Eileen also shares about the lessons she learned about messiness while walking the Camino de Santiago, saying that &#8220;Christ is The Way and whatever is in the way is The Way.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ABOUT THE GUEST<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sister Eileen McKenzie, who has ministered as a nurse, researcher, and acupuncturist, is concluding a term of service as the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fspa.org\">FSPA community<\/a> as president. Her ministries have taken her throughout the United States and West Africa, and for the past 15 years, she has been centered in the upper Mid-west, serving in St. Paul, Minnesota, and more recently La Crosse, Wisconsin. She founded FSPA Community Acupuncture and was a founding member of Integrative Therapies of La Crosse, a collective of holistic practitioners dedicated to making their services affordable and accessible for people in the region from 2010 to May 2020. She has a bachelor\u2019s degree in nursing, a master\u2019s degree in traditional Chinese medicine and has completed a predoctoral fellowship in clinical research. Sister Eileen has devoted time and energy for many health, justice and mission service-oriented organizations both locally and internationally, and is particularly interested in the intersection of social justice and healing movements. She is enamored by Franciscan spirituality and an ardent discerner of Pope Francis\u2019 call to create cultures of encounter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-18772\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-800x600.jpg 800w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-380x285.jpg 380w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/IMG_5561-1160x870.jpg 1160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Franciscan Sisters of Perpetual Adoration on the Camino de Santiago<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>MESSY JESUS BUSINESS<\/strong>&nbsp;is produced and hosted by Sister Julia Walsh.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Email us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com\">messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>BE SOCIAL:<\/strong><br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\"><br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Facebook:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitter: @messyjesusbiz<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instagram:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S<strong>UPPORT US:<\/strong>  https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>LISTEN HERE:<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Episode 52 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, with Sister Julia Walsh. 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