{"id":17298,"date":"2022-04-07T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-04-07T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=17298"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:32:48","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:32:48","slug":"brother-matt-wooters-swimming-in-the-ocean-of-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2022\/04\/07\/brother-matt-wooters-swimming-in-the-ocean-of-god\/","title":{"rendered":"Brother Matt Wooters: Swimming in the Ocean of God"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Season 5, episode 8 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/rollerbaggoddess.files.wordpress.com\/2022\/04\/brmattwooters.jpg?w=953\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9260 size-full\"\/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">&#8220;There&#8217;s an emptiness&#8230;there&#8217;s a hole we are perpetually trying to fill&#8230;.and the hole is God.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">-Brother Matt Wooters<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>LISTEN HERE:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2FS5E8BrMattWooters.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Fcustomwordpresssites.com%2Fmjb%2F2022%2F04%2F07%2Fbrother-matt-wooters-swimming-in-the-ocean-of-god%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a 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And I&#8217;m really not interested in selling anything,&#8221; Br. Matt explains. &#8220;I believe that everyone has a vocation, I don&#8217;t believe everyone has a Jesuit vocation. And so my job is to accompany young men to see where their vocation might be, even if it&#8217;s not with us.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They also discuss how discerning a religious vocation works today. &#8220;I think a vocation is a combination of your skills&#8230;your best self, where is the need in the world, and what&#8217;s something you can&#8217;t not do. So it&#8217;s something you keep thinking about,&#8221; he says. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They also discuss swimming, how it is a form of prayer for Br. Matt, and how he has integrated his passion for swimming into his vocation. 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