{"id":16487,"date":"2022-02-10T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-02-10T18:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=16487"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:33:26","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:33:26","slug":"gary-jansen-the-super-spiritual-and-the-supernatural","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2022\/02\/10\/gary-jansen-the-super-spiritual-and-the-supernatural\/","title":{"rendered":"Gary Jansen: The Super Spiritual and the Supernatural"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Episode 4, season 5 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"714\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/Gary-Jansen-1024x714.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16491 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author Gary Jansen talks with Sister Julia Walsh about everything from the supernatural to the spirituality of the seemingly mundane.   <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The fact is that we&#8217;re spiritual beings. We have a body. We have a soul. They&#8217;re intertwined,&#8221; Jansen explains, &#8220;so everything is a spiritual experience, and has the opportunity to provide meaning for you.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They discuss books, how they helped him discover his vocation and feel drawn to God. And they consider the reality of embracing a life of suffering when we choose the spiritual path. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They also talk about the mess of forgiveness, how it&#8217;s truly difficult and the lessons the difficulty of that journey can teach us. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ABOUT THE GUEST:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gary Jansen is a public speaker and author of several books, including the multi-award-winning &#8220;MicroShifts,&#8221; &#8220;The 15-Minute Prayer Solution,&#8221; &#8220;Station to Station,&#8221;  &#8220;Life Everlasting,&#8221; and the memoir: &#8220;Holy Ghosts.&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jansen has appeared on A&amp;E, the Sundance Channel, the Travel Channel, Coast to Coast AM, CNN.com, and NPR. His writing has been featured in the Chicago Sun-Times, USA Today, Huffington Post, Thrive Global, Angelus, and Religion Dispatches. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jansen worked at Penguin Random House for 25 years where he was the editor on several New York Times bestsellers. 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