{"id":12521,"date":"2021-04-29T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-04-29T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=12521"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:36:37","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:36:37","slug":"activist-kathy-kelly-we-are-all-part-of-one-another","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2021\/04\/29\/activist-kathy-kelly-we-are-all-part-of-one-another\/","title":{"rendered":"Activist Kathy Kelly: We are all Part of One Another"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"508\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Activist-and-Author-Kathy-Kelly.jpg\" alt=\"Kathy Kelly\" class=\"wp-image-12525 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Activist-and-Author-Kathy-Kelly.jpg 508w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Activist-and-Author-Kathy-Kelly-132x150.jpg 132w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Activist-and-Author-Kathy-Kelly-265x300.jpg 265w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/Activist-and-Author-Kathy-Kelly-380x431.jpg 380w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 508px) 100vw, 508px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p>&#8220;We have to become literate in the stories of war.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Kathy Kelly<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Season 3, Episode 6 of Messy Jesus Business, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2FS3_E4-Kathy_Kelly.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Fcustomwordpresssites.com%2Fmjb%2F2021%2F04%2F29%2Factivist-kathy-kelly-we-are-all-part-of-one-another%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/S3_E4-Kathy_Kelly.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?powerpress_pinw=12521-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/S3_E4-Kathy_Kelly.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"S3_E4-Kathy_Kelly.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_amazon\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Amazon Music\" rel=\"nofollow\">Amazon Music<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_pandora\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Pandora\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pandora<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_iheart\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on iHeartRadio\" rel=\"nofollow\">iHeartRadio<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_jiosaavn\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on JioSaavn\" rel=\"nofollow\">JioSaavn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_podchaser\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Podchaser\" rel=\"nofollow\">Podchaser<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_gaana\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Gaana\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gaana<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_pcindex\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Podcast Index\" rel=\"nofollow\">Podcast Index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_deezer\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Deezer\" rel=\"nofollow\">Deezer<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_anghami\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Anghami\" rel=\"nofollow\">Anghami<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/catholic-podcast\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>IN THIS EPISODE:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh talks with author and activist Kathy Kelly about her journey to becoming a peace activist, and how the evils of militarism and war don&#8217;t offer true security.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s almost as though the dominant religion in the United States has become militarism and militarization,&#8221; Kelly reflects.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sister Julia and Kathy Kelly also discuss the importance of being literate on the stories of war, and the importance of realizing the scope of our individual responsibility when overwhelmed by the battle for peace and justice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;When we get to the point where opening up the computer feels like &#8216;incoming,&#8217; we really do have to be mindful of the fact that in this ocean of humanity, I am one drop,&#8221; Kelly explains. &#8220;I am responsible for my one drop&#8217;s worth, but not necessarily more than what one drop in the ocean could commit.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ABOUT THE GUEST:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kathy Kelly is an award-winning nonviolent peace activist and the author of <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Other-Lands-Have-Dreams-Counterpunch\/dp\/1904859283\">Other Lands Have Dreams: From Baghdad to Pekin Prison<\/a>. <\/em>After graduating from Loyola University in Chicago in 1974, Kathy Kelly taught religion long enough to realize she needed to learn much more about the Gospels and social justice. She studied within schools offering master&#8217;s degrees in religious education in the Hyde Park area of Chicago earning an M.A. in 1979, but believes her most important schooling happened after she moved to Chicago&#8217;s Uptown area. There, Catholic Worker and Jesuit Volunteer Corps activists welcomed her as part of a diverse and highly energetic community, living in accordance with their deepest beliefs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kelly\u2019s refusal to cooperate with wars has led her to prisons, peace team efforts in war zones, and a constant challenge to learn and grow. Her belief in the Eucharist, the mystical body of Jesus, and resurrection began to make sense when beholding communities dedicated to becoming Christ for others and refusing to be intimidated even by the threat of death.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kelly is teaching an online course, &#8220;Lay Down My Sword and Shield&#8221; at the <a href=\"https:\/\/sscc.teachable.com\">School for Social and Cultural Change<\/a>.  You can also get involved in advocating for peace at&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bankillerdrones.org\">BanKillerDrones.org<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>CONTEMPLATIVE MOMENT:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our Contemplative Moment in this episode of Messy Jesus Business is from <a href=\"https:\/\/bible.usccb.org\/bible\/matthew\/14\">Matthew 14:22-32.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MESSY JESUS BUSINESS is produced and hosted by Sister Julia Walsh and edited by Charish Badzinski.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Email us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com\">messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>BE SOCIAL:&nbsp;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\"><br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitter: @messyjesusbiz<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SUPPORT US:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LISTEN HERE:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In this powerful episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh talks with author and activist Kathy Kelly about her journey as a peace activist, how militarism doesn't offer true security and how to ground ourselves in the fight for peace when we feel overwhelmed.","protected":false},"author":3902083,"featured_media":12587,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_kad_blocks_custom_css":"","_kad_blocks_head_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_body_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_footer_custom_js":"","episode_type":"","audio_file":"","podmotor_file_id":"","podmotor_episode_id":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"","filesize":"","filesize_raw":"","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":"","_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"_kad_post_classname":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[6469729,115341,698755601,698755602,698755390,2178641],"tags":[553705,698755512,154904,698755551,137903,2720,1147,348267,2128,133061,3934],"series":[698756626],"class_list":["post-12521","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-arts-and-activism","category-equity-and-justice-equity-and-justice","category-human-rights","category-peacemakingandnonviolence","category-podcast","category-prayer-and-spirituality","tag-author-interview","tag-author-profile","tag-bombs","tag-christian-authors","tag-drones","tag-human-rights","tag-iraq","tag-militarism","tag-peace","tag-peace-activists","tag-war","series-messy-jesus-business"],"acf":[],"episode_featured_image":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/kathy-kelly-372x372-1.jpg","episode_player_image":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/plugins\/seriously-simple-podcasting\/assets\/images\/no-album-art.png","download_link":"","player_link":"","audio_player":false,"episode_data":{"playerMode":"dark","subscribeUrls":{"apple_podcasts":{"key":"apple_podcasts","url":"","label":"Apple Podcasts","class":"apple_podcasts","icon":"apple-podcasts.png"},"stitcher":{"key":"stitcher","url":"","label":"Stitcher","class":"stitcher","icon":"stitcher.png"},"google_podcasts":{"key":"google_podcasts","url":"","label":"Google Podcasts","class":"google_podcasts","icon":"google-podcasts.png"},"spotify":{"key":"spotify","url":"","label":"Spotify","class":"spotify","icon":"spotify.png"}},"rssFeedUrl":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/messy-jesus-business","embedCode":"<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"gI0h4GzldP\"><a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2021\/04\/29\/activist-kathy-kelly-we-are-all-part-of-one-another\/\">Activist Kathy Kelly: We are all Part of One Another<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2021\/04\/29\/activist-kathy-kelly-we-are-all-part-of-one-another\/embed\/#?secret=gI0h4GzldP\" width=\"500\" height=\"350\" title=\"&#8220;Activist Kathy Kelly: We are all Part of One Another&#8221; &#8212; Messy Jesus Business\" data-secret=\"gI0h4GzldP\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\"><\/iframe><script>\n\/*! 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