{"id":10560,"date":"2020-10-22T10:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-10-22T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=10560"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:38:03","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:38:03","slug":"stina-kielsmeier-cook-the-search-for-community","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2020\/10\/22\/stina-kielsmeier-cook-the-search-for-community\/","title":{"rendered":"Stina Kielsmeier-Cook: The Search for Community"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Season 2, Episode 3 of Messy Jesus Business, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LISTEN HERE:<\/p>\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" 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expecting and yet, is not unredeemable,&#8221; Kielsmeier-Cook explains.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Stina-profile-mail-chimp-Stina-Kc.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10564\" width=\"421\" height=\"421\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Stina-profile-mail-chimp-Stina-Kc.jpg 600w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Stina-profile-mail-chimp-Stina-Kc-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Stina-profile-mail-chimp-Stina-Kc-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Stina-profile-mail-chimp-Stina-Kc-400x400.jpg 400w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/Stina-profile-mail-chimp-Stina-Kc-200x200.jpg 200w, 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She calls the frigid northland her home, where she raises children, keeps the libraries busy with her insatiable reading habit, and admits to often running late for church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>CONTEMPLATIVE MOMENT:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our Contemplative Moment in this episode of Messy Jesus Business is adapted from the <a href=\"https:\/\/37371.thankyou4caring.org\/file\/NOVENA-FOR-PEACE-Day-4-April-5-D.pdf\">opening prayer located here.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MESSY JESUS BUSINESS is produced, hosted and edited by Sister Julia Walsh with production assistance from Charish Badzinski.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Email us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com\">messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS:<br><br>We&#8217;re taking a survey of listeners to find out how we can improve Messy Jesus Business, and what topics you would like us to focus on for future podcast episodes. <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/forms\/d\/e\/1FAIpQLScuYmKTFCSWHDb-IMY3R6Y_JXqPcrqBCuZ8a9BIXsgjQvy7lA\/viewform\">Take our brief survey here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>BE SOCIAL:&nbsp;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\"><br><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitter: @messyjesusbiz<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SUPPORT US:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Season 2, Episode 3 of Messy Jesus Business, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh LISTEN HERE: IN THIS EPISODE: In Season 2, Episode 3, Sister Julia Walsh talks with Stina Kielsmeier-Cook, author of a spiritual memoir: Blessed are the Nones: Mixed Faith Marriage and My Search for Spiritual Community. 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