{"id":10466,"date":"2020-10-08T11:40:29","date_gmt":"2020-10-08T16:40:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=10466"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:38:09","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:38:09","slug":"steven-p-millies-our-world-needs-all-hands-on-deck","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2020\/10\/08\/steven-p-millies-our-world-needs-all-hands-on-deck\/","title":{"rendered":"Steven P. Millies: Our World Needs All Hands on Deck"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Season 2, Episode 2 of Messy Jesus Business, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LISTEN HERE:<\/p>\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.blubrry.com\/?media_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2Fcontent.blubrry.com%2Fmessyjesusbusiness%2FS2_E2-Steven_Millies_FINAL-10_7_20_5_23_PM.mp3&amp;podcast_link=https%3A%2F%2Fcustomwordpresssites.com%2Fmjb%2F2020%2F10%2F08%2Fsteven-p-millies-our-world-needs-all-hands-on-deck%2F#mode-Light&border-000000&progress-000000\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"100%\" height=\"165\" frameborder=\"0\" id=\"blubrryplayer-1\" class=\"blubrryplayer\" title=\"Blubrry Podcast Player\"><\/iframe><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/S2_E2-Steven_Millies_FINAL-10_7_20_5_23_PM.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?powerpress_pinw=10466-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/content.blubrry.com\/messyjesusbusiness\/S2_E2-Steven_Millies_FINAL-10_7_20_5_23_PM.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"S2_E2-Steven_Millies_FINAL-10_7_20_5_23_PM.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_subscribe_links\">Subscribe: <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_spotify\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Spotify\" rel=\"nofollow\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_amazon\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Amazon Music\" rel=\"nofollow\">Amazon Music<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_pandora\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Pandora\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pandora<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_iheart\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on iHeartRadio\" rel=\"nofollow\">iHeartRadio<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_jiosaavn\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on JioSaavn\" rel=\"nofollow\">JioSaavn<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_podchaser\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Podchaser\" rel=\"nofollow\">Podchaser<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_gaana\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Gaana\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gaana<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_pcindex\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Podcast Index\" rel=\"nofollow\">Podcast Index<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/subscribebyemail.com\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_email\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe by Email\" rel=\"nofollow\">Email<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_deezer\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Deezer\" rel=\"nofollow\">Deezer<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_anghami\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe on Anghami\" rel=\"nofollow\">Anghami<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/feed\/podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_rss\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Subscribe via RSS\" rel=\"nofollow\">RSS<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/catholic-podcast\/subscribe-to-podcast\/\" class=\"powerpress_link_subscribe powerpress_link_subscribe_more\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"More\" rel=\"nofollow\">More<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>IN THIS EPISODE:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Season 2, Episode 2, Sister Julia Walsh talks with Steven P. Millies about the believer&#8217;s role in our highly-politicized ecosystem.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"450\" height=\"674\" class=\"wp-image-10469\" style=\"width: 450px;\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/170828-Headshots-MCP-103-Steven-Millies.jpg\" alt=\"Steven P. Millies\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/170828-Headshots-MCP-103-Steven-Millies.jpg 801w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/170828-Headshots-MCP-103-Steven-Millies-100x150.jpg 100w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/170828-Headshots-MCP-103-Steven-Millies-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/170828-Headshots-MCP-103-Steven-Millies-768x1151.jpg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/170828-Headshots-MCP-103-Steven-Millies-684x1024.jpg 684w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/10\/170828-Headshots-MCP-103-Steven-Millies-67x100.jpg 67w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;One of the things that I&#8217;ve come to understand&#8230;is that our life inside the church is political,&#8221; Millies says. &#8220;And I want to be very clear about what I mean by that. Politics is not the partisanship, it&#8217;s not the division, it&#8217;s not the polarization. Politics is the human hope for the common good unearthed through discourse and dialogue. It&#8217;s the building of community.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Millies continues, &#8220;I think it&#8217;s terribly important&#8230;for everyone we speak to, to understand clearly that this is a world that needs all hands on deck&#8230;and it certainly needs all believers.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We also dive down into the interplay of sin and polarities, the importance of trusting in Divine timing and our jobs as Catholics working on the assembly line on the project of building God&#8217;s reign. We&#8217;ll discuss how liturgy and rituals of Church and politics build bonds. And, believe it or not, we talk about sports too!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>FURTHER READING:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sister Julia&#8217;s recent <em>Global Sisters Report<\/em> column is related to the conversation in this episode and suggests that the solution to polarities and social sin are within the people of God. Click here to read her column, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.globalsistersreport.org\/news\/social-justice\/column\/democracy-collapsing-lets-imagine-how-church-could-change\">Democracy is collapsing, but let&#8217;s imagine how the church could change that.&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ABOUT THE GUEST:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Steven P. Millies is Director of The Bernardin Center and associate professor of public theology at Catholic Theological Union in Chicago. During the fall 2020 semester he is the Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, SJ Visiting Fellow in Catholic Studies at Loyola University Chicago&#8217;s Joan &amp; Bill Hank Center for the Catholic Intellectual Heritage. His most recent book was <em>Good Intentions: A History of Catholic Voters&#8217; Road from Roe to Trump<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our Contemplative Moment in this episode of Messy Jesus Business is taken from a new <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/encyclicals\/documents\/papa-francesco_20201003_enciclica-fratelli-tutti.pdf\">encyclical letter from Pope Francis<\/a>, Fratelli Tutti. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>&#8220;For these reasons, the Church, while respecting the autonomy of political life, does not restrict her mission to the private sphere. On the contrary, \u201cshe cannot and must not remain on the sidelines\u201d in the building of a better world, or fail to \u201creawaken the spiritual energy\u201d that can contribute to the betterment of society. It is true that religious ministers must not engage in the party politics that are the proper domain of the laity, but neither can they renounce the political dimension of life itself, which involves a constant attention to the common good and a concern for integral human development. The Church \u201chas a public role over and above her charitable and educational activities\u201d. She works for \u201cthe advancement of humanity and of universal fraternity\u201d. She does not claim to compete with earthly powers, but to offer herself as \u201ca family among families, this is the Church, open to bearing witness in today\u2019s world, open to faith hope and love for the Lord and for those whom he loves with a preferential love. A home with open doors. The Church is a home with open doors, because she is a mother\u201d. And in imitation of Mary, the Mother of Jesus, \u201cwe want to be a Church that serves, that leaves home and goes forth from its places of worship, goes forth from its sacristies, in order to accompany life, to sustain hope, to be the sign of unity&#8230; to build bridges, to break down walls, to sow seeds of reconciliation.\u201d<\/em> (FT 276)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MESSY JESUS BUSINESS is produced, hosted and edited by Sister Julia Walsh with production assistance from Charish Badzinski.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Email us at&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com\">messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS:<br><br>We&#8217;re taking a survey of listeners to find out how we can improve Messy Jesus Business, and what topics you would like us to focus on for future podcast episodes. <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/forms\/d\/e\/1FAIpQLScuYmKTFCSWHDb-IMY3R6Y_JXqPcrqBCuZ8a9BIXsgjQvy7lA\/viewform\">Take our brief survey here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>BE SOCIAL:&nbsp;<br><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness\"><br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/MessyJesusBusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Twitter: @messyjesusbiz<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SUPPORT US:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness\">https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/messyjesusbusiness<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In Season 2, Episode 2, Sister Julia Walsh talks with Steven P. 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