{"id":10201,"date":"2020-09-03T15:26:13","date_gmt":"2020-09-03T20:26:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/?p=10201"},"modified":"2026-02-26T13:38:27","modified_gmt":"2026-02-26T19:38:27","slug":"marlena-graves-the-dangers-of-money-power-and-influence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/2020\/09\/03\/marlena-graves-the-dangers-of-money-power-and-influence\/","title":{"rendered":"Marlena Graves: The dangers of money, power and influence"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Marlena Graves: The dangers of money, power and influence<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Season 1. 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They discussed her new book and its message about downward mobility and discipleship,&nbsp;how justice and righteousness go together, and how the hungers for money, power, and influence tend to complicate faithful Christian living.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ABOUT THE GUEST:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized is-style-rounded\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-683x1024.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10207\" width=\"568\" height=\"851\" srcset=\"https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-683x1024.jpeg 683w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-1365x2048.jpeg 1365w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-100x150.jpeg 100w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-200x300.jpeg 200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-768x1152.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-1024x1536.jpeg 1024w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-1200x1800.jpeg 1200w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-67x100.jpeg 67w, https:\/\/customwordpresssites.com\/mjb\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/09\/Favorite-picture-Marlena-Graves-scaled.jpeg 1707w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 568px) 100vw, 568px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/marlenagraves.com\"><strong>Marlena Graves<\/strong><\/a> is a writer and adjunct professor. She has also worked at Farm Labor Organizing Committee (FLOC). Marlena holds an MDiv from Northeastern Seminary in Rochester, New York, and is a graduate of the Renovar\u00e9 Institute. She has been a bylined writer for&nbsp;<em>Christianity Today,&nbsp;<\/em>(in)courage, womenleaders.com, and&nbsp;<em>Our Daily Bread<\/em>, and she is also the author of<em>&nbsp;A Beautiful Disaster<\/em>. 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